This is a great chat with Samantha Geitz, a Senior Developer at Tighten, and the founder of BetaFish. Topics in this episode: Should "business/marketing" people learn programming?What's the difference between messing around and being a serious programmer?Do regular programmers Google for answers?Why English Majors can make great programmers.If you want to learn hard things, do you need to be in a classroom?Why should take a mental health day when you need it. Announcement: Want to speak at a tech conference? I'm doing class called "public speaking for geeks." More info here. Show notes Samantha Geitz on TwitterTighten.coBattle.Tighten.coSamantha's new startup: BetaFishCoinPress.ccSamantha's blog post: "How I overcame my fear of public speaking" Stuff from Justin... My new startup: Transistor.fmLooking for community? Join MegaMaker ClubJoin Justin's newsletter justinjackson.ca/newsletterSend Justin a message on Twitter: @mijustinSend Justin a message on Instagram: instagram.com/mijustinSend Justin a message on Snapchat: @mijustin Thanks to... Podcast hosting: Transistor.fm 🎙️ Podcast hosting is provided by Transistor.fm.📺 Learn how to start your own podcast! Rss Apple Podcaster →