Madeline Link of PACKS returns to discuss understanding the ins and outs of their first tour, mixing her new album with food poisoning, songwriting goals and Dwyer shares some thoughts on Elvis. Madeline achieved this great interview while continuously being attacked by a cat in Chili. You can listen to Dwyer's first conversation with Madeline HERE


Opening Song - Abalone from the album Crispy Crunchy Nothing by PACKS.


Crispy Crunchy Nothing is out March 31 2023 on Fire Talk Records


The Eleventh Hour: Songs For Climate Justice


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