In this episode, Chris Hadnagy is joined by Jacob Ward, a veteran technology journalist who has reported for NBC News, Al Jazeera, CNN, and PBS, and previously served as editor-in-chief of Popular Science. Jacob is the author of The Loop: How AI Is Creating a World Without Choices—and How to Fight Back, a book that anticipated today's commercial AI moment. Together, they explore how artificial intelligence is shaping human behavior, decision-making, and autonomy, along with the ethical and societal challenges that come with an increasingly AI-driven world.  

[Feb 9, 2026] 

00:00 – Intro 
01:02 – Intro Links 

01:33 – Meet Jacob Ward  

04:52 – The Impact of AI on Human Behavior 
12:37 – Ethical Concerns & Emotional Attachment to AI 
19:27 – The Problem with AI Integration 
20:42 – AI and Human Connection 
21:49 – The Value of Human Attention 
24:25 – The Future of Purpose in an AI World 
25:31 – Geopolitical Impacts of AI 
31:06 – Mentors and Influences 
33:22 – Book Recommendations 

37:21 – Guest Wrap-Up & Outro 

 

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LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/christopherhadnagy 

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