If we just had enough heart: an interview with Evie Shockley

In Episode 77 of PennSound podcasts, poet Evie Shockley sits down in the Wexler Studio at the Kelly Writers House for an interview about her work with Al Filreis, Tyrone Williams, Aldon Nielson, and William J. Harris. In this wide-ranging conversation, Shockley, Filreis, Williams, Nielson, and Harris discuss the scope and trajectory of Shockley's poetry, from her 2011 book the new black, to her more recent books semiautomatic (2017) and suddenly we (2023). Shockley talks about the influences of various poets on her work, including Amiri Baraka, Gwendolyn Brooks, and Harryette Mullen, among others.