Sarah Williams is many things—artist, healer, advocate for parents of neurodivergent children, and wife to Joel McHale. Sarah shares the story behind her 30-year marriage, raising a son with autism, navigating losing her father at 10, and discovering purpose through creativity, faith, and community. Plus, Joel McHale stops by to explain why everyone who meets Sarah ends up liking her more than him. A funny, honest conversation about love, resilience, and the power of showing up for the people around you.

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(00:00) Intro (00:39) Surviving rainy Los Angeles (02:43) Becoming neighbors with Joel McHale (04:15) Living with Joel's competitive streak (06:29) Joel runs a marathon without training (07:43) Meeting young and getting married (08:32) Their unforgettable first date (09:36) Supporting Joel before Hollywood (11:16) Becoming a Hollywood plus one (14:17) Who Sarah is outside of Joel (15:05) Losing her father at age 10 (18:12) Processing grief and depression (20:40) Finding healing through art (22:28) Becoming a spiritual director (25:08) Spiritual direction, retreats & creativity (27:20) Parenting an autistic son (29:38) Balancing Joel's busy career and family (30:21) Joel McHale joins the conversation (33:24) Why everyone loves Sarah (39:05) Building a support community for autism families (43:43) How Sarah wants to be remembered (45:42) The person she'd most want one more conversation with (46:50) Final thoughts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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