Welcome to Liz The Music Manager's podcast, where I interview legendary musicians, industry professionals, and indie artists to break down the music business. I am here to give you a simple and honest breakdown of the music industry explained simply—diving deep into publishing, sync licensing, registration, music royalties, and everything you actually need to know to get paid.

In this special episode, I sit down with a songwriter's songwriter, the legend himself: Oscar- and two-time Grammy-nominated singer-songwriter Stephen Bishop. As the voice and pen behind hits like “On and On,” “It Might Be You” (Tootsie), and “Separate Lives,” Stephen has written over 650 songs, sold 15 million records, and garnered 6.1 billion streams. Today, he shares an absolute masterclass on songwriting longevity, protecting your publishing, and surviving decades in the industry.



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