What does it take not only to achieve success from scratch, but to sustain it? 

In Episode 3 of Negotiating the World, Ambassador Herro Mustafa Garg sits down with Senator Ahmed Abou Hashima for a candid conversation about entrepreneurship, leadership, calculated risk, and building lasting success in a rapidly changing world. 

A self-made industrialist who started as a bank trainee, Abou Hashima is known for developing large-scale businesses and focusing on sustainable industrial development.  He shares the lessons that shaped his rise, from navigating uncertainty and making difficult decisions to creating long-term value.  

In his own words, “Reaching the top is hard, but staying there is even harder.”  

He also breaks down the distinct frameworks of leadership required to thrive in different arenas, explaining the high-speed decision-making needed for business versus the composure and consensus-building required for national politics.  

As artificial intelligence transforms industries and careers, he offers advice to the next generation on resilience, continuous learning and adaptability.  He strips away the polished "Instagram version" of overnight success, reminding young professionals of the real key to thriving in the future economy. 

Negotiating the World explores conversations with global leaders, entrepreneurs, and policymakers about leadership, negotiation, and the forces shaping our world. 

About the Guest

Senator Ahmed Abou Hashima is one of the Middle East’s most dynamic business and political figures.  Over his career, he has scaled massive operations, injecting over a billion dollars into eco-friendly infrastructure during major national and political transitions.  Today, he serves as a Member of the Egyptian Senate and Chairs the Senate's Financial, Economic, and Investment Affairs Committee, bridging private sector execution with national policy-making. 


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