Jen Spyra | But Also with Michael and Asher

Jen Spyra is a writer whose work has been featured in the New Yorker. She was a senior writer at the Onion and also wrote for The Late Show with Stephen Colbert for four seasons. She joins us for a conversation about catchin d while havin' cancer, how gossip is good, and cowards in the republican party.

00:00:00 Cold Open
00:00:30 Welcome to But Also
00:01:03 Life in the Samurai Hole
00:02:05 The "Fucking It Out" Coffee Shop Ritual
00:06:17 Coffee Shops vs. Libraries
00:08:33 Pomodoro, Phone Bricks, and Deadlines
00:12:57 The Saratoga Springs Writer's Retreat
00:14:15 On Being Around "Real" Writers
00:15:57 Cancer in High School
00:22:44 Dads, Weight, and the Wisconsin Pizza Years
00:27:08 Obsession, Wish Fulfillment, and Black Mirror
00:30:15 Critiquing Other People's Work Publicly
00:32:40 The MFA and Getting Mad
00:35:31 Improv Team Scapegoats
00:40:19 Everything Is Copy
00:45:32 The 65 Coats Theory
00:47:33 In Defense of Gossip
00:53:15 Why Jen Is a Good Hang
00:56:38 The Teleprompter Betting Scandal
01:01:25 Sports Betting Morality
01:07:28 Nobody Will Say Who Won 2020
01:12:06 Unrelatable Liars and Permanent Legacies
01:14:57 Full Throated Endorsement: TURN
01:20:23 Outro

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