For this Labor Day episode we’re joined by Bill Fletcher, a longtime union organizer who’s spent the last several years working to build out the labor movement’s anti-fascist infrastructure.

Bill has an important reminder for those of us who direct most of our anti-fascist energy against Trump and the oligarchy: MAGA isn’t some astroturf trick. It’s a genuine social movement representing some 25-30% of Americans, and any strategies that ignore this fact are missing something fundamental about today’s dangerous political reality.

You can learn more about Bill's organization, Standing for Democracy, here: https://www.standing4democracy.org/

Fighting Fascism Podcast is produced by Nik Damants in collaboration with The Nation.

Intro song and music by Horse Radish.

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