When one knows that something important is happening in their life, they get goosebumps. In this episode we unveil the intentions and inspirations behind this podcast. You'll hear us — Jon and Jurgis — talk about koans, Zen, Alysia Liu, and how the alchemy of unlikely combinations forms something that can only be felt in the body. You can subscribe to our freshly baked substack at: seekelsewhere.substack.com


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