'Don't dream it, be it'

Tim and Gina discuss the influential people who have passed away recently, phallic microphones, the institution of marriage, taxes, the poetry of Wendell Berry, Queer vs. Gay, the Fall semester, Oh Hi! Ohhh, Artist panels with difficult audience questions, Encaustic, Zachary Armstrong's house of paintings at the Weston Gallery in Cincinatti, going to museums with friends, loving yourself through all your eras, post gallery-closing tips, Seriousness vs Humor, whether or not it's possible to waste time in the studio and shows they're looking forward to this Fall.