This week Tanya sits down with Emma for a wandering,honest conversation about the gap between understanding something and actually feeling it.

They talk about why knowing the “why” behind a meltdown, a trigger, or a parenting mistake doesn’t stop it from hurting, and how intellectualising can quietly become another way of bypassing our own nervous systems.

From attachment wounds and trauma responses to theparticular grief of realising the harm done before a late autism diagnosis, this one goes deep. They also share the small, unfussy things that help them come back to themselves: dancing badly in the kitchen, talking to trees, and letting a feeling last its real ninety seconds instead of the story we build around it.

In this episode

  • Why insight and understanding don’t immunise us from hurt, grief, or overwhelm
  • How intellectualising can be a trauma response and a nervous-system safety blanket
  • Attachment patterns that show up when someone we love pulls away
  • The particular shame of harm done before a late autism diagnosis
  • Finding neurodivergent-affirming therapists, and why it’s worth vetting every one
  • Tools for actually feeling a feeling: titration, pendulation, and the real ninety seconds
  • What grounds each of them — dancing, nature, and safe anchors

Magic momentsEmma - A slow, sweet morning cuddled up with her daughter Daisy — mucking about in bed together instead of jumping straight into the routine

Tanya - Listening to Brené Brown talk about wearing two watches— one for chronos time and one that belonged to her grandmother— which sent Tanya looking for her own grandmother’s watch, and the memories that came withfinding it.

Resources mentioned

  • Big Magic by Elizabeth Gilbert
  • Trauma and Recovery by Judith Herman
  • Gabor Maté’s work on trauma and addiction
  • Francis Weller’s work on grief, including the gates of grief and grief for the unloved self
  • Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents by Lindsay C. Gibson
  • An article referenced as “the piece by Lindsay” — Lindsey Mackereth's Substack
  • Kristy Forbes’s Substack

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