Alex Edmans joins Kai Wu to explore behavioral finance, market inefficiencies, and why investors overlook intangible assets such as employee satisfaction, innovation, and brand strength. Drawing on his book The Madness of Markets, the London Business School finance professor explains why markets overreact to headlines, underreact to long-term value, and leave opportunities for patient, independent investors.

The Madness of Markets
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Topics covered:

  • How soccer defeats reveal the influence of investor emotions on stock prices

  • Why short-term momentum and long-term reversals can coexist

  • Costco, employee satisfaction, and the intangible value markets struggle to price

  • Why publicly available research does not automatically eliminate investment opportunities

  • Measuring innovation through R&D productivity, patent citations, and patent novelty

  • What brand strength, customer reviews, and employee talent flows reveal about businesses

  • How AI can improve intangible investing while behavioral biases persist

  • Updating value investing to include human capital, brands, innovation, and network effects

  • Separating financially relevant ESG factors from labels, and inclusion from demographic diversity

  • Finding an investing edge through knowledge, endurance, and independence

Timestamps:

00:00 How investor emotions move stock prices
05:27 Why markets overreact and underreact
11:52 Why employee satisfaction alpha persisted after publication
17:46 R&D, patents, and the value of innovation
21:52 Brand strength and Amazon reviews as investment signals
26:13 Will AI eliminate the edge in intangible investing?
30:25 Tracking talent flows and the long payoff from intangibles
35:36 Finding mispriced intangibles where others cannot or will not look
40:05 Why value investing needs more than accounting adjustments
46:17 The End of ESG and what actually drives shareholder value
52:40 Inclusion, psychological safety, and the limits of simple metrics
58:41 Knowing your edge: knowledge, endurance, and independence
1:04:36 Why Edmans disagrees with efficient market theory

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