Ronda’s guest this week is Jocelyn Samuels, a lawyer who epitomizes what it means to be a public servant. She has served the American people in numerous ways, both as a career civil servant and as a political appointee. They discuss how the Supreme Court's decision in Trump v. Slaughter reshapes independent agencies like the EEOC, why it matters for workers' civil rights, and what it means for the future of public service.
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