Jakob Diepenbrock is running a hard-tech fund from El Segundo, backing young engineers building defense, manufacturing, robotics, energy, and other critical industries. He joins Lukas and Saila to explain how he skipped the credential ladder, built Discipulus Ventures, raised a fund by treating the process like a startup launch, and why Anduril’s breakout made defense tech the allocation everyone suddenly wanted.


They also discuss cost-plus military contracts, drones versus soldiers, DJI’s domination of creator hardware, automated American textile factories, why humanoid robots are TikTok bait, insectoid factory machines, American-made peptides, ethanol and farm lobbies, machine financing at 30%, the tacit knowledge trapped in aging machinists, lowballing retiring boomers for obscure industrial monopolies, founder bench-press requirements, a Vegas magician who broke reality, CIA remote viewing, UFOs as Space Force marketing, medical isotope enrichment, Russian shell companies, and Germany’s reverse house-flipping bureaucracy.


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Timestamps:


00:00 Intro and Sponsors

01:25 The Substack Payment Processor Is Finally Fixed

05:00 Turning the Podcast Into a Call to Action

07:08 Meet Jakob / Long-Distance Running Is Adult Self-Harm

09:19 El Segundo, Chamath, and the Defense-Tech Wave

11:17 Why Hard Tech Belongs in El Segundo

14:40 Starting a Fund Without Credentials

17:29 Venture Capital Is Crappy Beta

19:23 Raising a Fund Like a Startup

22:46 The 22-Year-Old Fund Manager Problem

24:36 Why Defense Tech Suddenly Became Cool

27:27 Elon, DOGE, and the $20 Million Missile

29:05 How Cost-Plus Contracting Broke Defense

30:00 The Defense Industry Is Smaller Than You Think

32:19 Political Risk for Government Contractors

35:17 Robotics Is the Next Bubble

36:29 Reindustrialization and the American-Made Premium

40:00 DJI, Drones, and the Captured Creator Economy

42:03 “Reindustrialized” Sweaters Made in China

43:47 Automated American Textiles

47:59 Humanoid Robots Are Boomer Bait

50:51 Insect Robots, Chemicals, and Ethanol

54:58 RFK’s Fitness Camps and American-Made Peptides

57:11 Bioreactors and Cheaper Drug Manufacturing

58:23 Lowballing Boomers for Strategic Companies

1:03:51 America Runs on Three Old Guys and a Notebook

1:08:37 Grants, Tariffs, and Supply-Chain Sovereignty

1:12:38 Wire Harnesses and 30% Machine Financing

1:17:08 El Segundo Culture and the Founder Bench Test

1:21:48 The Vegas Magician Who Broke Reality

1:24:49 CIA Remote Viewing, UFOs, and Space Force

1:28:33 Medical Isotopes and Russian Shell Companies

1:31:05 Germany’s Reverse House-Flipping Program

1:33:20 Mandatory Call to Action

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