Thom talks to Max Haiven. Recorded at the Organize! Movement Meetup 2026: https://www.organizemovementmeetup.org/

There's a bit of namedropping and referencing in this one, so here's some links.

— MAX HAIVEN — The Player and the Played: https://maxhaiven.com/player/ The ReImagining Value Action Lab: https://reimaginingvalue.ca/ Max's website: https://maxhaiven.com/ Billionaires & Guillotines: https://billionairesandguillotines.com/ Comrade Orca: https://maxhaiven.com/comrade-orca/ Games Transformed: https://www.instagram.com/gamestransformed/

— THOM & MGL — Thom is on bsky: bsky.app/profile/lagomhygge.bsky.social MGL is also on bksy: bsky.app/profile/materialist-games.bsky.social MGL has a discord: discord.gg/VNFmncR6KT

— GAMES — Wolfenstein 3D: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfenstein_3D Secret Hitler: https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/188834/secret-hitler Through the Darkest of Times: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Through_the_Darkest_of_Times Anna Anthropy's Empathy Game: https://web.archive.org/web/20160330105001/http://auntiepixelante.com/empathygame/ For fairness, I'll also include this more recent statement on dys4ia: https://w.itch.io/dys4ia/devlog/620323/on-dys4ias-return The Sims: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sims Hegemony: https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/321608/hegemony-lead-your-class-to-victory

— BOOKS, IDEAS, ARTICLES — Eludamos Journal: https://eludamos.org/index.php/eludamos/index Umberto Eco's "Urfascism": https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/umberto-eco-ur-fascism Wittgenstein's "Family Resemblance": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_resemblance Flag-raising movement: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Raise_the_Colours AfD conference "coincidence": https://web.archive.org/web/20260705040732/https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jul/04/german-riot-police-clash-protesters-block-far-right-afd-conference Huizinga: Homo Ludens - The Cheat and Spoilsport: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_Ludens Aaron Trammel's "Repairing Play": https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262545273/repairing-play/ C. Thi Ngyuen's "Agency": https://academic.oup.com/book/32137 Corbusier'sA machine for living in: https://99percentinvisible.org/article/machines-living-le-cobusiers-pivotal-five-points-architecture/

— MUSIC — Hot Fiction - No Soul: https://archive.org/details/jamendo-114604/02-973384-Hot+Fiction-No+Soul.mp3

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