China’s robots can dance and run marathons—but can they do useful work? And can China make the core components like actuators, reducers, and chips?
In this episode of the High Capacity podcast, I talk with Sunny Cheung, a fellow in China Studies at the Jamestown Foundation, about China’s push into humanoid robots and physical AI. We explore how China is turning its EV supply chains into a robotics ecosystem, how state-owned enterprises create demand for robots, and where China still depends on foreign technology. We also discuss what the US and its allies can do to compete.
We discuss:
• How much progress has China made beyond dancing robots and impressive demonstrations?
• Why are Chinese EV companies moving into humanoid robotics?
• How do state-owned enterprises help robotics companies scale production and gather training data?
• Which components can China produce domestically—and where does it still rely on Japan, Germany, and the US?
• Can world models and simulation provide enough data to train useful robots?
• Could general-purpose AI models like Fable or Astra end up powering the next generation of robotics?
• How can the US and its allies build competitive robotics supply chains?
Links:
Sunny Cheung at the Jamestown Foundation: https://jamestown.org/analyst/sunny-cheung/
DSET report: “The Age of Robotics: China-West Competition and Taiwan’s Indispensable Role in the Non-Red Supply Chain”
https://dset.tw/en/research/000500-1/
Wilson Center: “The Deployment Gap: Why America Risks Losing the Robotics Race”
https://acrosskarman.wilsoncenter.org/article/deployment-gap-why-america-risks-losing-robotics-race
Jamestown Foundation: Embodied Intelligence: The PRC’s Whole-of-Nation Push into Robotics
https://jamestown.org/embodied-intelligence-the-prcs-whole-of-nation-push-into-robotics/
Sunny Cheung on Twitter / X:
https://x.com/sunnycheungky
Sunny Cheung on LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/sunnycheungcky/
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Kyle Chan on Twitter / X:
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