Larz May has spent a decade building digital wellness programs for young people, and she's discovered something quietly radical: the smartphone doom loop of screen dependence and anxiety is preventable, and joy (not restriction) is the way out. She makes the case for a different relationship with technology — for kids, parents and everyone in between — that starts with swapping screens for some analog fun. (This conversation is hosted by “TED Talks Daily” host Elise Hu.) 拉兹·梅伊（Larz May）花了十年时间为年轻人设计数字健康项目，她发现了一些悄然具有颠覆性的事实：那种屏幕依赖与焦虑交织的智能手机“末日循环”是可以避免的，而出路在于快乐（而非限制）。她主张建立一种与技术的新型关系——无论是孩子、父母，还是介于两者之间的所有人——从用现实的乐趣取代屏幕开始。（本期对话由《TED 每日演讲》主持人伊莉丝·胡（Elise Hu）主持。）
