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Bible Scholar DESTROYS the "Being Gay Is a Sin" Argument

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If you've ever wondered whether you can be both LGBTQ+ and Christian, this conversation is for you.


In this powerful episode of You Can Be Both, Lauren sits down with Mattie Mae Motl—a progressive Bible scholar, Master of Divinity graduate, and PhD candidate studying gender, sexuality, and the New Testament—to unpack some of Christianity's biggest questions.


Together they discuss:


✨ Is being gay really a sin?
✨ What the Bible actually says about LGBTQ people
✨ The "clobber verses" explained
✨ Why Jesus never mentioned homosexuality
✨ How deconstruction can strengthen—not destroy—your faith
✨ Women, patriarchy, and the Bible
✨ Why love—not fear—is the lens Jesus taught us to read Scripture through
✨ How LGBTQ Christians can find peace with God


Whether you're deconstructing your faith, healing from religious trauma, or simply searching for honest conversations about Scripture, this episode offers hope, compassion, and a fresh perspective rooted in biblical scholarship.


If this conversation encouraged you, please LIKE, SUBSCRIBE, and share it with someone who needs to hear that you really can be both LGBTQ and a person of faith.


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