In 2026, Handle with Care returns with Episode 4, featuring New York–based theatre and opera director and producer Zack Winokur. In this episode, Adam and Laura dive into the art of set design, with Adam and Zack reflecting on their long-standing collaborations and how their shared belief in the power of world-building for the stage has evolved over time.

The conversation moves between various influences, from 18th-century trompe l’œil to radical contemporary productions, including a show featuring sheep herded by a giant zeppelin at New York’s Armory.

Find out more about Zack Winokur here, or follow him @winokurz

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