Sabrina Narain and Amy Maclear met as defense counsel for a shared client and quickly became friends. Within months of deciding to start a firm together, they launched Narain Maclear LLP. On this episode of In the Counsel's Chair, they join host Jack Needham to talk about building a firm around technology and process. They explain how analytics from a high-volume consumer warranty docket shape litigation strategy and why corporate clients now expect outside counsel to use AI. They also discuss why they put first- and second-year lawyers in front of juries, how judges are pushing firms to let junior attorneys argue, and why courtroom advocacy is one skill AI can't replace.

Episode chapters

  • 00:00 — Introductions
  • 00:26 — From friends to co-founders
  • 02:00 — Their practice backgrounds
  • 03:00 — Designing a firm around innovation
  • 04:12 — Hiring for strengths, not job titles
  • 06:05 — What they look for in a remote team
  • 07:46 — Launching at scale
  • 09:16 — Are they an AI-native firm?
  • 09:50 — Turning litigation data into strategy
  • 12:11 — Why clients expect AI from outside counsel
  • 13:14 — Judges giving junior lawyers the floor
  • 16:32 — Why firms hold young talent back
  • 17:54 — Training first-year trial lawyers
  • 21:13 — Advocacy skills AI can't teach
  • 22:39 — Why trial lawyers will last
  • 23:35 — Remote hearings and remote work
  • 26:15 — Will they ever try a case together?

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