John & Phil have a conversation about the film 'Perfect days' about a Tokyo toilet cleaner and find a lot to agree about - and surprisingly 'spiritual' themes.

Topics: Ordinary Life as Sacred Practice – A Tokyo toilet cleaner’s repetitive routine becomes a quiet meditation on dignity, care, and simplicity.

Presence Over Plot – The film resists conventional narrative, inviting attention to how life is lived rather than what happens.

Mindfulness Tested by Disruption – Family visits and subtle losses wobble the calm, revealing the limits of composure when life intrudes.

Beauty in Small Things – Sunlight through leaves, cleaning by hand, tending plants, shared smiles—fleeting moments as meaning.

Honest Spirituality – Skepticism toward tidy spiritual answers; valuing sincerity, vulnerability, and “honest failure” over pretence. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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