How will AI impact the business I have spent years building? 
  
When Sal Khan, CEO and founder of Khan Academy, was confronted with this question in 2023 he didn’t wait for someone to answer, he learned quickly and built the outcome he wanted. The result was a personalized learning model that enhanced education for 200 million users across the world. 
  
Join host Jimmy Allen of Bain & Company and Sal as they discuss how to embrace the discomfort of navigating disruption, the importance of relearning how to learn, and how CEOs can use AI to strengthen their competitive positions. 
  
Sal also reveals the promise he made to his team - if they’re creating AI that can automate their roles they won’t be replaced, they will be promoted. How can leaders find new ways to drive productivity amid the uncertainty surrounding AI? 
  
This is a conversation about turning disruption into new opportunities, how curiosity can help us navigate the unknown, and how leaders can leverage AI to set their businesses apart. 
  
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EPISODE CHAPTERS 
00:00 Introduction 
02:22 The astonishing ability of emerging AI 
03:21 Experimenting with an early AI model 
04:14 Turning fears into features 
04:56 Sal’s quick decision to adopt AI 
05:46 The concerns of AI in education 
07:04 Sal’s symbiosis with AI developers 
07:57 Why Khan Academy had to understand AI 
08:32 How Sal seized the opportunity of disruptive technologies 
09:22 Getting the team on board through confronting risks 
10:05 Preparing to launch 
10:34 The need for a responsible actor becomes clear 
11:56 How Sal built his tiger team 
13:17 How Sal’s mentality helps embrace AI uncertainty 
15:23 Learning how to learn again 
16:11 Helping people learn in the right ways with AI 
18:05 How AI facilitates a deeper education 
19:08 The choice: to thrive with AI, or to be replaced by AI 
19:55 Three key things about learning with AI 
20:36 Sal’s promise 
20:55 A CEO’s guide to using AI 
24:03 The fundamental question answered by Sal’s journey 
25:28 What is personalized mastery education 
28:21 How AI facilitates Khan Academy's personalized learning model 
28:50 Gaining the conviction to adopt AI 
29:54 When conviction turns into validation 
30:37 What we can learn from Sal’s journey 
  
LINKS 
A Scorecard on our 3 AI Journeys - Jimmy Allen - Blog [https://tinyurl.com/AIJourneyScorecard] 
Bain & Company LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/company/bain-and-company/] 
Bain & Company X [https://x.com/BainandCompany] 
Jimmy Allen LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-allen-3442b/] 
Sal Khan LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/khanacademy/] 
  
About the Host: 
Jimmy Allen is an Advisory Partner at Bain & Company with over 35 years’ experience advising leading organizations. He’s the author of multiple best-selling books on growth and leadership and the host and founder of Bain’s Global CEO Community Forum. Jimmy is a regular speaker at global business events, including the World Economic Forum, and serves on the Botswana Economic Advisory Council. Outside of consulting, Jimmy started his own record label [Abubilla Music] in 2008 and supports Singing Wells, a project dedicated to preserving Kenyan village music.

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