In this episode of "Reality Check," Ross Coulthart sits down with Dr. Jacques Vallée, the astrophysicist, computer scientist and venture capitalist whose seven-volume "Forbidden Science" diaries have shaped UAP research for six decades. They discuss the final volume, "Forbidden Science 7." Vallée describes the data warehouse of some 260,000 sightings he built for the Bigelow Aerospace project funded by the Defense Intelligence Agency, why the work was cut off after roughly three years before the analysis he designed could run and the fact he has never been debriefed from his clearance.


He walks Ross through his correspondence with a master remote viewer he calls "Gilbert," who describes being taken inside a laboratory built into a mountain and brought face to face with a living nonhuman entity that answered in configurations of light. He also tells Ross that he once came face to face with an entity himself. Vallée says a member in good standing of the National Academy of Sciences told him the academy was warned it could lose funding if it moved into the subject, and after sixty years of investigation, he has concluded that nobody is actually in charge of the phenomenon inside the U.S. government.


The conversation closes on a 1966 Louisiana case in which a physics professor watched an object radiate energy on the order of a nuclear power station and on the piece of tree bark Vallée has kept ever since, waiting for a way to test it that does not cut into the wood.


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CREDITS:

Host: Ross Coulthart

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Editorial Producer: Meagan Medick

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Editor: Anthony Diasio


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CHAPTER SUMMARY:

0:00 Intro

4:31 The Answers That Emerged in 2025

7:16 The Capella Database

15:58 Why the AAWSAP Project Was Shut Down

20:59 Working at the Wrong Level

31:58 Gilbert and the Living Entity

40:07 Inside the Mountain Laboratory

48:43 Hynek and the 1984 Hearings

57:20 Communication Through Light

1:10:07 Higher Reality Levels

1:17:25 Samples and Recovered Craft

1:23:45 The National Academy Was Warned

1:26:14 Nobody Is in Charge

1:36:55 The Haynesville Case

1:43:23 Using Tree Bark to Measure Energy

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