Great breeding programs are built on the mindset of the breeder behind them.


In this episode of the Better Breeder Roundtable, Kathy Rust is joined by Jamie Hubbard (Clussexx Kennels) and Spenser Hardin (Longview Collies) to talk about how a breeder's mindset can either propel a program forward or quietly hold it back for years.


Together, they explore what it really takes to think in generations rather than litters, how to overcome the “I'm just a little speck” feeling at the start, and why heart and head both have to be at the table when planning a breeding.


Jamie and Spenser share how their own visions have matured over time, why co-breeding and networking have become essential in an era of smaller kennels, and how to stay grounded in your own vision when the ribbons pull in a different direction.


Here's what this conversation covers:

- Overcoming the “little speck” mindset when starting out

- Approaching experienced breeders and nationals with confidence

- Building a long-term vision that stays consistent across generations

- Balancing heart and head when evaluating your own dogs

- Why the biggest winners aren't always the strongest producers

- Reproductive health, temperament, and numbers as part of the plan

- Building male lines that truly earn their place in a breeding program

- Networking, co-breeding, and elevating the breed by elevating others

- The truth about first litters and what makes them worth the effort


Whether you're contemplating your first litter, refining your vision, or rethinking the direction of an established program, this episode offers a grounded, honest perspective on the mindset it takes to build something that lasts.


Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

00:38 Welcome to the Better Breeder Roundtable

01:25 What Mindset Really Means in Breeding

02:30 You Are Not Just a Speck in the Sport

04:21 How to Approach Your First National

06:17 Getting Hands-On with Dogs and Studying the Standard

07:46 Why Judges' Education Isn't Just for Judges

09:57 Building a Long-Term Vision for Your Kennel

11:42 When Emotion Becomes the Killer of a Program

16:08 Thinking in Generations, Not Litters

18:41 Fixing the Overall Dog Before the Details

21:31 How Long Until You Truly Know Your Genepool

23:52 Making Progress with Small Numbers Through Co-Breeding

27:08 Don't Let Fads Distract from Your Vision

29:28 Measurable Strength vs. Ribbons

31:16 Why Reproductive Health Belongs in the Vision

35:46 Keep the Best Puppy

37:47 Breeding Littermates to Compare What They Produce

42:55 Why First Litters Are Rarely Good Enough

44:44 Building a Male Line With Purpose

49:12 Knowing When You've Found the Right Stud

52:21 Elevating Other Breeders Elevates Your Own Program

59:13 Handling Health Issues With an Open Book

01:02:09 Final Takeaways


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