Why do people quit?


In this honest conversation, Pastor Benny Perez and Pastor Michael unpack what it really takes to endure difficult seasons without losing your faith, purpose, or joy.


From church planting and financial hardship to grief, betrayal, counseling, and leadership, this episode explores how God uses adversity to shape people who last.


Whether you're leading a church, raising a family, building a business, or simply trying to keep going through a difficult season, this conversation will encourage you to stay faithful.


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