Rick Rubin is considered by many to be the greatest music producer alive today. His work spans the Red Hot Chili Peppers, Run-DMC, Adele, U2, Neil Diamond, and his legendary American Recordings with Johnny Cash.
He has also become one of the most influential voices in culture. His interviews include Paul McCartney in McCartney 3,2,1 and Jay-Z in the HBO series JAŸ-Z in 8. On his podcast, Tetragrammaton, he recently sat down with Neil Young.
Now add one more name to that list: Pastor Greg Laurie.
In this unusual episode, legendary producer Rick Rubin turns the microphone around and interviews Greg about his life, faith, and the Jesus Movement that shaped him. The conversation moves at the pace of a long dinner between curious friends. Greg answers Rick's questions about faith, baptism, communion, the Holy Spirit, the Sabbath, and whether the God of the Old Testament really differs from the God of the New. He also speaks candidly about losing his son Christopher and what grief taught him about ministering to people in pain.
Timestamps: 00:00 Open 00:06 Welcome and how the Rick Rubin interview came together 04:17 Salt and light: pastor vs evangelist 06:46 Growing up with a Marilyn Monroe mother and seven stepfathers 08:46 Meeting the Jesus freaks and Lonnie Frisbee on campus 11:54 Who Lonnie Frisbee really was 17:00 Chuck Smith, the steady father figure 18:46 Conditions that sparked the Jesus Revolution 23:00 Was it just LA, or everywhere? 25:53 Deepening faith and losing his son Christopher 32:31 Always learning: how understanding Scripture grows 39:51 Learning about Jesus after conversion 42:02 Starting Harvest without meaning to start a church 46:36 Friendship with Billy Graham 50:09 Jesus's teachings vs church theology 51:53 What faith actually is 55:06 The Holy Spirit explained 58:47 When burnt offerings stopped 01:00:43 Baptism and the recent baptism movement 01:03:25 Communion and the Last Supper 01:07:00 How Greg prepares a sermon 01:12:23 Is the Old Testament God more judgmental? 01:15:31 Music, Love Song, and the birth of Christian music 01:22:36 Church as grassroots vs industry 01:25:08 What's stayed the same since Jesus's time 01:27:12 Social media, TV, and the vet with the loaded gun 01:29:34 The Sabbath and resting 01:31:17 Bob Dylan's conversion and Slow Train Coming 01:33:07 Did you choose Jesus or did Jesus choose you?
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