AI can write, edit, design, code, and even sound like you—but it can't be you.
In this episode, Jason Todd Wade joins Michele Flamer, host of the Living Out Loud Podcast and author of The Connect Effect, for a conversation about what becomes more valuable as artificial intelligence becomes more capable.
Rather than debating whether AI is good or bad, they explore how it changes the way we communicate, build businesses, create content, and develop relationships. From podcast production and AI-assisted writing to customer experience, research, and decision-making, they share practical ways they're using AI every day while discussing the importance of maintaining human judgment, authenticity, and trust.
The conversation also examines AI hallucinations, verification, emotional intelligence, "vibe coding," and why disagreement, curiosity, and genuine listening remain essential skills in an increasingly automated world.
As AI lowers the cost of creation, the premium shifts to something machines cannot manufacture: meaningful human connection.
Why authenticity becomes more valuable as AI improves
How AI can increase productivity without replacing people
Using AI to think more clearly instead of reacting emotionally
Podcast production, editing, and content creation with AI
Vibe coding and making software development accessible
AI tools for research, design, marketing, and small business
The importance of verifying AI-generated information
Hallucinations, citations, and responsible AI use
Human customer service in an automated world
AI as a tool for reflection, journaling, and personal growth
Why healthy relationships require disagreement and repair
Building trust and community in the age of artificial intelligence
Michele Flamer is a technology sales executive, relationship strategist, podcast host, and author whose work focuses on communication, customer experience, leadership, and authentic human connection.
With experience spanning retail, e-commerce, software, customer feedback, and national sales leadership, she helps organizations better understand the voice of their customers while building stronger relationships internally and externally.
She hosts the Living Out Loud Podcast, featuring conversations with entrepreneurs, nonprofit leaders, public figures, and changemakers making a positive impact in their communities. Michele is also the author of the forthcoming book The Connect Effect, which explores how trust, authenticity, and meaningful relationships create lasting success in business and life.
Jason Todd Wade is the founder of BackTier and creator of the AI Visibility framework, helping organizations become discoverable, understandable, and recommendable inside AI systems.
His work focuses on AI Visibility, Generative Engine Optimization (GEO), Answer Engine Optimization (AEO), entity authority, structured content, digital reputation, and the shift from traditional search to machine-generated discovery.
Jason hosts the AI Visibility Podcast, where he interviews founders, technologists, marketers, attorneys, creators, and business leaders exploring how artificial intelligence is reshaping search, marketing, commerce, and decision-making.
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