In this episode, Jess sits down with Professor Michelle Phelps to discuss what policing and prisons show us about democracy, and the politics of police reform in Minneapolis.

Michelle Phelps is a Professor in the Department of Sociology at the University of Minnesota. Her work focuses on the sociology of policing, probations and prisons and her latest book The Minneapolis Reckoning: Race, Violence, and the Politics of Policing in America wonthe 2026 Outstanding Book Award from the Academy of Criminal Justice Sciences.

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