You clock out, but your brain doesn't. You're still short with your kids, still numb through your own weekend, still running on a threat response that never got the memo the workday ended and you're not sure self-care is actually touching it.

Shaina Siber, LCSW, is a licensed clinical social worker, integrative therapist, and founder of AFFIRM Mental Health, a continuing education company for mental health professionals. She's the author of "Using ACT and CFT for Burnout Recovery: The Beyond Burnout Blueprint" and host of The Affirming Minds Podcast.

In this episode, you'll learn:
- Christina Maslach's 6 systemic drivers of burnout — and why most of them have nothing to do with willpower or self-care
- How Compassion-Focused Therapy's threat/drive/soothing model explains why "well-intentioned" coping (a workout, a glass of wine) often doesn't actually calm your nervous system
- Why venting has a real physiological upside in small doses — and how it backfires when it becomes reflexive ("the dose makes the poison")
- Two steps from Shaina's Beyond Burnout Blueprint: creating a compelling vision, and identifying your unique strengths
- What she'd change first as an employer to prevent burnout on a team — starting with psychological safety

Timestamps:
0:00 Welcome & Meet Shaina Siber, LCSW
0:53 The Martyrdom Baked Into Helping Professions
3:34 What Burnout Actually Is (Beyond "Being Tired")
6:59 Christina Maslach's 6 Systemic Drivers of Burnout
28:31 Compassion-Focused Therapy: Old Brain vs. New Brain
33:01 The 3 Systems of Emotional Regulation (Threat, Drive, Soothing)
38:44 Step 1: Creating a Compelling Vision
44:35 Step 3: Watch Your Words (Venting, Complaining, Reassurance-Seeking)
49:27 Step 4: Identify Your Unique Strengths
54:29 Step 5: Be Kind to Yourself and Others
59:49 What Leaders Can Do to Prevent Team Burnout
65:44 Where to Find Shaina Siber

If you liked this episode, you might want to check out this episode on Perfectionism education and research.

Resources mentioned:
- Shaina's book: "Using ACT and CFT for Burnout Recovery: The Beyond Burnout Blueprint"
- The Affirming Minds Podcast (Shaina's podcast)
- AFFIRM Mental Health 
- Christina Maslach's burnout research (6 systemic drivers)
- Paul Gilbert, founder of Compassion-Focused Therapy
- Kristin Neff's self-compassion research (restorative and fierce compassion)

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Self Careapist Therapist Podcast is a biweekly, therapist-to-therapist conversation hosted by Lorain Moorehead, LCSW, PMH-C, EMDRIA Approved Consultant. Guests include psychologists, researchers, and the developers of the clinical models they teach, with practical takeaways for every level, from intern to clinical supervisor. Many episodes offer a free CEU for Arizona licensure through the Board of Behavioral Health Examiners.

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