Mac and The Rev discuss making prophecy relevant today, arguing that being a “prophet” is not an exclusive club but an innate human capacity rooted in relationship with the divine rather than ego. After sharing personal updates, they use Richard Rohr’s ideas to frame prophecy as challenging the old order, nurturing and evoking new ways of thinking, and repeatedly calling people to “listen,” especially with the heart.
They critique religious and cultural systems that shut down discernment and maintain control, urging openness to evolving truth, questioning, and learning from many sources. Using river and “boat” metaphors, they emphasize trusting life’s current, avoiding stagnation, and recognizing that God’s promises energize and expand the heart while placing authority within individuals, not institutions.
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