North Korea has supplied Russia with millions of artillery rounds, thousands of troops and workers for its drone factories to support its war in Ukraine. In return, Russian money, food, energy and weapons are reviving Pyongyang’s economy, giving it military battlefield experience and potentially advancing Kim Jong Un’s nuclear and missile capabilities.


Dr Victor Cha, former White House national security official and one of America’s leading Korea experts, joins The General & The Journalist to explain how Russia has made an isolated regime richer and more dangerous. How powerful has North Korea become? Why have decades of denuclearisation diplomacy failed? And could talks with Washington loosen Kim’s alliance with Putin?


Should the West accept a nuclear North Korea? Get in touch: generalandjournalist@thetimes.co.uk


Chapters:

  • 00:00 North Korea’s economic boom
  • 08:31 Russia fuels Kim Jong Un
  • 14:18 China, Russia and North Korea
  • 18:32 North Korea’s nuclear threat
  • 26:16 Why denuclearisation failed
  • 33:46 Kim Jong Un’s successor and future


Guest: Dr Victor Cha, president of the Geopolitics and Foreign Policy Department and Korea Chair at the Center for Strategic and International Studies

Hosts: General Sir Patrick Sanders and Tom Newton Dunn

Patrick brings his experience as a former head of the British Army to the podcast. He is also a Conservative peer and advises the party on defence.

Producer: Julia Webster

Executive producer: Priyanka Deladia 

Image: Dana Chan, Getty

Clips: Reuters, Getty

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