I sat down with Tamari Jacob, Certified Lactation Counselor, mom of 4, and founder of One With the Pump. After going through her own difficult, exclusive pumping journey - twice - Tamari realized just how massive the gap was in resources, education, and support for moms who need to pump, so she set out to fill it herself. We get into what a real "feeding plan" should actually look like in those first crucial hours and days - not just "I want to breastfeed," but what that actually means in practice: emptying every two to three hours, when to try hand expression versus pumping, and why triple feeding should never be a long-term plan. We also get into pump education 101 - the difference between a primary and secondary pump, why "hospital-grade" on a wearable pump ad is basically a marketing myth, and why flange sizing matters way more than most moms realize.
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What I loved most about this one is how Tamari balances hard data with so much grace for moms. We talked about the pressure of social media - how a stranger's 90-ounce freezer stash isn't the benchmark, and how making 25-30 ounces a day is genuinely something to be proud of. Whether you're exclusively pumping, combo feeding, or just trying to figure out what pump to register for, Tamari's whole philosophy comes down to one thing: your goal is her goal, and there's no one "right" way to feed your baby.
More from Tamari Jacob, CLC:
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Episode 57: Which Breast Pump Should You Get? Let's Break Them All Down
Episode 53: The Truth About Low Milk Supply: What Everyone Needs to Know Before Baby is Born
Episode 28: Oversupply, Exclusive Pumping & Neurodivergent Lactation with The Oversupply Mama
Helpful Timestamps:
- 00:00 Exclusive Pumping
- 03:52 Tamari’s Journey to Exclusive Pumping
- 11:19 Building a Feeding Plan
- 17:40 Options When Nursing Isn't Working
- 21:44 Pumping Myths
- 28:43 Primary vs Wearable Pumps
- 33:41 Social Media Supply Myths
- 38:29 Supplements and Freezer Stash
- 42:40 Triple Feeding Reality
- 44:13 Pumping Resources
About your host:
Lo Mansfield, MSN, RNC-OB, CLC is a registered nurse, mama of 4, and a birth, baby, and motherhood enthusiast. She is both the host of the Lo & Behold podcast and the founder of The Labor Mama.
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