EPISODE DESCRIPTION
Agentic AI is changing the job description of ordinary knowledge workers before most companies have prepared them for it. Employees who once completed individual tasks are increasingly expected to delegate work to AI agents, question polished outputs, coordinate systems, and take responsibility for what gets produced.
Crissy Koger, COO of Chakra AI Solutions, has spent more than a decade between executive leadership, developers, and end users. She and Jason talk about why systems thinking transfers so well to AI, how technical writing became an unexpectedly valuable skill, and whether organizations are ready for workers to manage teams of agents.
The conversation also reaches into AI literacy in schools, the importance of women at the table when consequential technology decisions are made, and the human judgment that automation cannot be allowed to replace. The takeaway is direct: learning to use AI is only the beginning. We must learn to manage it.
ABOUT THE GUEST
Crissy Koger is the Chief Operating Officer at Chakra AI Solutions. Her career spans systems implementation, infrastructure, cybersecurity, Salesforce administration, software testing, process improvement, and executive strategy. She is especially good at translating between leaders, developers, and the people who must actually use the systems they build.
GUEST LINKS
Crissy Koger on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/crissykoger/
Chakra AI Solutions: https://chakrasolutions.ai/
TIME STAMPS
00:00 - Crissy's career between executives, developers, and end users
05:02 - What no-code AI would have sounded like in 2022
09:24 - Using ChatGPT for communication, analysis, and leadership gaps
14:50 - AI as a translator between people who speak different professional languages
19:13 - Prompt engineering gives way to systems thinking
25:49 - AI literacy, ethics, and teaching children how these systems work
34:37 - Quantitative analysis as preparation for AI collaboration
38:36 - Are workers ready for agentic AI workflows?
47:29 - AI changes how knowledge workers create and edit deliverables
49:58 - Every knowledge worker becomes a manager and critic
51:12 - Why women need a stronger voice in consequential AI decisions
58:39 - Leadership books for the age of AI
CONNECT WITH JASON PADGETT
Jason Padgett
Open-minded explorer, podcast host, next-gen leader, team member, and coach.
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jason-grant-padgett/
Wooden Boy Industries
Bring your biggest challenge. We will talk about where your school is heading and how to help students get ready for what comes next.
https://woodenboyindustriesai.com/
Sprite
Practical AI capability for solopreneurs who want to learn the tools and use them well themselves.
https://woodenboyindustriesai.com/sprite/
Chakra AI Solutions
Chief Solutions Architect
https://chakrasolutions.ai/
The AGI Podcast Network
Advance, Grow, and Innovate with AI.
https://schoolsout.agipodcast.ai/
jason@agipodcast.ai
RESOURCES MENTIONED
Anthropic AI Fluency Framework: https://www.anthropic.com/ai-fluency
Leadership Mindset 2.0 by R. Michael Anderson: https://rmichaelanderson.com/leadership-mindset-2-0/
Creativity, Inc. by Ed Catmull with Amy Wallace: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/216369/creativity-inc-the-expanded-edition-by-ed-catmull-with-amy-wallace/
