This week, Matty is joined by Sam Cushing for his first-ever podcast appearance—and yes, he touches Matty’s wiener (Kirkland, obviously).


Fresh off a Labor Day weekend in Fire Island, Sam is in NYC for Fashion Week to talk all things gay life, dating, getting older, and figuring out what you actually want. Matty and Sam get into Fire Island vs. Ptown, whether Sam could see himself moving back to New York, hookup culture, saying “I love you” on the first date, and why dating in your 30s feels completely different than dating in your 20s.


They also talk marriage, kids, fear of intimacy, knowing whether it’s your gut or just anxiety talking, and the constant battle between wanting to be healthy and wanting to stay out dancing until 5 a.m. Plus, Sam closes things out with a rapid-fire round of This or That.

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