A Conversation with Andrew Remington Rillera about Penal Substitutionary Atonement (PSA)

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Join Marissa and Andrew Remington Rillera in the church library for today's bonus episode discussing Andrew's book Lamb of the Free: Recovering the Varied Sacrificial Understandings of Jesus's Death, his insight into the sacrificial system of the Torah, and the implications this has for our theories about atonement and family life.

Things mentioned in the episode: 

-Andrew's article on Ephesians 2

-Jesus and the Law of Moses: The Gospels and the Restoration of Israel within First-Century Judaism, by: Paul T. Sloan

-Anselm's Cur Deus Homo

-Hannah Bowman's  article From Substitution to Solidarity: Towards an Abolitionist Atonement Theology

-Peter Leithart's critique of Andrew's book

-Andrew's response to Peter's critique

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Episode Chapter Markers: 
3:21—Andrew's bio/introduction
6:23—Penal Substitutionary Atonement (PSA) defined
22:20—Is PSA "the Gospel"?
47:28—Significance of the "washing" imagery in the sacrificial system
57:13—Where did we go wrong with our understanding of this imagery?
1:01:22—What are the implications for parenting?
1:18:43—Discussion of recent social media conversation on PSA & critiques of Andrew's book

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