What does it actually take to build trust and get clients when you're starting from zero? In this episode, Ethan Decker talks with Thomas Sloan, an early stage B2B and tech focused brand strategist, about the messy reality of building credibility from nothing. Thomas opens up about the discomfort of trading his marketing instincts for a sales hat, and Ethan pushes back on the idea that positioning should come first at all. They dig into why smaller, less obvious clients might be the smartest place to start, what a frog with elk antlers has to do with brand memorability, and why the simplest ideas are often the hardest to actually execute. It's a candid, tactical conversation for anyone building a business or a brand from the ground up.


Main Topics:

  • Why Thomas started his own brand strategy practice
  • The trust gap new solopreneurs face without a track record to point to
  • Ethan's case for prioritizing sales over marketing early on
  • Prototyping your company in the real world instead of guessing at your ideal client
  • The whipsaw strategy for building credibility one client at a time
  • Procrastination disguised as productivity, and why it's so common for founders
  • The universal brand needs of awareness, familiarity, and memorability
  • The origin story of Ethan's Frelk logo
  • Color and simplicity as fast, effective differentiation
  • Why a punchy, spiky positioning statement beats a safe one


Links to Additional Resources: 

appliedbrandscience.com, for deeper dives into brand science principles 

Cover Song of the Week: Cake's cover of War Pigs:https://open.spotify.com/track/0VCxnMdEmqM4SVc5TXcmIV?si=78d49175d7c6453d

Thomas Sloan’s website: https://sloanthomas.com/


If you're building a business from scratch and wondering whether to focus on your brand or your next sale, this one's for you. Subscribe to Cover Brand for more, share this episode with a founder who's stuck polishing their website instead of picking up the phone, and head to appliedbrandscience.com to dig further into the science behind the stories.


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