Anna Sumara built a coaching career around one idea: the body knows before the mind does. A coach, facilitator, and Coactive Training Institute faculty member, Anna joins hosts Dr. Steve Jeffs and Erwin de Grave to explain embodied presence and why tension in the body weakens a leader's message.


Anna walks through a practice for noticing physical sensation during moments of stress, describes why she sees boundaries as physical before they are verbal, and explains the difference between a regulated and a reactive nervous system. She closes with her honest view on why coaching for deep, lasting change still needs a human being in the room, even with AI now present in the coaching field.

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