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Brent Klavon, Chief Strategy Officer at ANRA Technologies, joins The Ways We Move to pull back the curtain on Uncrewed Traffic Management (UTM) — the invisible infrastructure that lets drones, delivery services, and first responders safely share the same airspace.
From Amazon Prime Air to Dubai's air navigation system to Counter-UAS security at the FIFA World Cup, ANRA is operating at the intersection of technology, regulation, and global airspace complexity.
And on AI?
Brent has a refreshingly honest take.
00:00 Introduction — Season 2 update and two-week hiatus explained
03:28 Meet Brent Klaxon — Chief Strategy Officer, ANRA Technologies
03:56 How ANRA Was Founded: Garage startup to NASA partnership (2015)
05:04 What Is UTM? Uncrewed Traffic Management explained simply
09:00 How drones fit into already-crowded airspace
11:46 US airspace structure and why traditional ATC doesn't scale to drones
13:01 The Three-Circle Framework: Technology, Standards, and Policy
17:01 Real-world UTM today: Amazon Prime Air flying thousands of flights daily
18:23 Drone as First Responder — prioritization when the lights come on
21:09 New York Power Authority: UTM for utility infrastructure at scale
22:22 GPS spoofing, cybersecurity, and how ANRA monitors system health
25:10 AI in UTM — not a silver bullet: what it actually does (and doesn't)
25:37 EASA U-Space certification — first and only UTM provider in Europe
28:19 Building an agnostic global platform: tailoring UTM for each market
29:13 The Dubai project and the impact of regional conflict on delivery
34:08 Counter-UAS at the FIFA World Cup 2026: protecting shared airspace
38:07 Military and dual-use: where the lines are blurring
39:25 Data privacy, ownership, and the coming FAA data rule. Competition and the state of the UTM market. Brent's personal note — lessons from seven years building ANRA
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