In this episode, the guys are joined by legendary rock drummer Phil Varone of Saigon Kick and Skid Row for an incredibly honest and hilarious conversation about the highs and lows of the rock and roll lifestyle.
Phil holds nothing back as he shares some of the wildest stories from his early touring days, starting with a terrifying encounter in Houston where he had to hide on the floorboard of a car to escape an angry NFL running back. He also dives into unbelievable behind-the-scenes moments from touring with KISS. Listeners will hear the hilarious truth behind Paul Stanley's bizarre stage banter, the time Ace Frehley got lost in the crowd in his full leotard, and an epic rivalry where Phil outsmarted Gene Simmons with the help of a little person during a performance of I Love It Loud.
The conversation then shifts to the darker side of fame as Phil opens up about his battle with extreme cocaine addiction and the reality of his infamous appearance on VH1's Sex Rehab. Phil and Chris share a deep bond over their respective journeys to sobriety, discussing the harsh truths of drug abuse, the regret of watching their past behaviors on film in Phil's documentary Waking Up Dead, and the life-changing power of humility and accountability.
Today, Phil is fifty-eight years old, completely sober, and thriving in a different world as a successful senior video editor for television and film. He also discusses his new ventures, including doing stand-up comedy on the upcoming Monsters of Rock Cruise and the recent Atlantic licensing deal for Saigon Kick. Tune in for an inspiring and side-splitting episode about surviving the chaos of the music industry and finding true peace.
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