What does it really take to deter a modern adversary at sea when the old rules of the Cold War no longer seem to apply?

In this episode of Facing Coming Storms, Pete Apps is joined by Professor Jim Bergeron, a former US Navy nuclear submariner and long-time political advisor to NATO's Maritime Forces. They explore the shifting realities of naval warfare, from the high-stakes cat-and-mouse games of the 1980s to the modern, AI-driven surveillance of the Baltic and the High North - a great listen that explores what is really going on behind the headlines.

Facing Coming Storms is brought to you by the British Army’s Centre for Historical Analysis and Conflict Research, in partnership with the Project for the Study of the 21st Century, and produced by Urban Podcasts.

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