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In this episode I sit down with Ariel Garten, psychotherapist and co-founder of Muse, the brain-sensing headband that turns your own brainwaves into real-time sound. We go deep into what "regulation" actually means in the brain and body, why poor sleep predicts anxiety more than anxiety predicts poor sleep, and how tracking your own nervous system can change the way you show up in your relationships, your work, and your healing.

We talk about:


  • How Muse translates your brainwaves into sound so you can hear your mind focus and wander in real time

  • Why sleep latency improved by 54% in clinical research, and what that means for anyone who struggles to fall asleep

  • Deep Sleep Boost: how a subtle sound during your delta waves can deepen your most restorative sleep

  • The link between the vagus nerve, heart rate variability and trauma responses

  • How neurofeedback supports trauma processing through metacognition and nervous system regulation, not just willpower

  • Why athletes, Mayo Clinic doctors and Alzheimer's researchers are all using the same tool for very different reasons

  • How Ariel used Muse to transform her own relationship of 20+ years


This is one of those conversations that gives you language for what your body has been doing all along, and a tool to actually work with it instead of against it.

If this episode helped you understand your own nervous system a little better, share it with someone who needs it too.

0:00 Intro
1:07 What Is Muse?
2:40 How Muse Was Invented & the Science of Brainwaves
7:51 How Meditation With Muse Works
10:22 Improving Sleep With Muse
16:32 Live Muse Demo & Tracking Your Progress
20:42 From Research Lab to Consumer Device
22:56 Sleep, Anxiety & Emotional Regulation
28:11 The Nervous System: Vagus Nerve & Heart Rate Variability
29:57 Working Through Trauma With Muse
36:18 Why Ariel Created Muse & What She's Seen
38:46 The Studies: Mayo Clinic, Feelings & Heart Meditation
42:15 The Future of Muse & Who Can Use It
47:00 Relationships, Family & Everyday Use
53:47 Closing Thoughts & Where to Get Muse

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