Fish Stark joins Andrew to talk about bringing empathy back to America and how folks can get $1,000 grants for empathy projects that will take place across the country on May 2. This is much bigger than just a single project, this is an answer to the toxicity of Christian Nationalism, MAGA politics, and the division in this country. But it could also be the answer for growing the secular movement. This is the very time Fish and Andrew have chatted and history is lucky it was (mostly) recorded. 

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