In this episode of the Mindform Podcast, host Frank Lawton sits down with Dr. Betsy Chung, a licensed clinical psychologist with over 15 years of experience and author of The Couple Skills Workbook: Manage Conflict, Increase Trust and Intimacy, and Build a Better Relationship. Dr. Chung has spent her career helping people untangle how childhood relational patterns quietly run their adult lives — and in this conversation, she makes the case that growth isn't a destination, it's a lifelong process of trial and error.
In this episode, they explore:
Why "graduating" therapy isn't really the goal — and what is
The difference between feeling safe and feeling secure in a relationship
How shame became our default tool for change (and why it backfires)
What unconditional positive regard actually looks like in practice
Why letting people — including your own kids — fail is an act of love
How Dr. Chung's own childhood shaped her approach to parenting her daughter
Learn more about Dr. Betsy Chung at drbetsychung.com
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