The Expat Experience: Two Bay Area Tech Workers Retire Early in Portugal

"You have to go to the place, and do your own gut check."

In this episode, we enjoy a conversation with married expats Serene and Cliff, two well-traveled, goal-oriented former tech workers from the San Francisco Bay Area who, after many years of "auditioning" countries around the world, settled in Portugal for an early retirement. They discuss what drew them to the expat life, especially as Black Americans, as well as what they've learned as they've begun putting down roots and understanding their new home. 

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