We're back for Season 2, and Jon and James kick things off with one of their favourite topics: Incretin mimetics. The gut is the biggest endocrine organ in the body, and the data in steatotic liver disease is now as good as anything we have in Hepatology for steatotic liver disease.

James and Jon cover the basic pharmacology, how to start and titrate these drugs in practice, what to tell patients about stopping them, the muscle loss question, endoscopy and anaesthesia, and a brief look at where the evidence is going across cardiovascular disease, kidney disease, sleep apnoea, IBD, and cancer. There is a lot going on with these drugs and this episode is the primer.

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Chapters

00:00 Intro: Season 2 is here

03:00 What are incretins? The gut as endocrine organ

06:30 Origin story: Gila Monster and the GLP-1 breakthrough 08:30 The drugs: semaglutide, tirzepatide, and what's coming 10:00 How they actually work: satiety, the brain, and fat oxidation

12:00 Who to start: patient selection and caution groups

13:30 Lean MASH and Southeast Asian BMI thresholds

16:00 Exercise, muscle loss, and the resistance training argument

18:30 Side effects: nausea, constipation, lipase, mood

21:00 Endoscopy and anaesthesia: what to do

24:00 Titrating in practice: James's approach

28:00 Stopping the drug: weight regain and the SURMOUNT data

33:00 Personalising treatment: who can stop, who shouldn't 35:00 Eating disorders, body image, and screening

37:00 MASH data: ESSENCE and Synergy-NASH trials

39:30 Oral formulations: what's available and caveats

40:30 Where bariatric surgery still fits

42:00 Broader indications: IBD, CVD, CKD, cancer

45:00 Global obesity trends and the public health message 47:00 Wrap-up

Papers discussed

ESSENCE trial

Synergy-NASH trial

SURMOUNT-MAINTAIN

Tirzepatide and fat oxidation, Cell Metabolism 2025

GLP-1 receptor agonists and 13 obesity-associated cancers

SELECT trial

FLOW trial

SURMOUNT-OSA

STEP 9: Semaglutide in obesity and knee osteoarthritis

Psoriatic Arthritis paper

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