One of the hardest parts of waiting isn't the waiting itself. It's believing that God is still working when nothing seems to be happening.
In this episode of the Not Just Waiting Podcast, I'm joined by speaker, author, and Healed to Heal Podcast host Kathleen Johnson for one of the most thought-provoking conversations we've had this season.
We talk about what it really means to walk by the Spirit instead of relying on our own understanding, why self-reliance often keeps us stuck, and how God forms our character long before He fulfills our calling.
If you've ever struggled with anxiety, overthinking, striving, or feeling like everything depends on you, this conversation will remind you that freedom begins by staying connected to the Vine—not by trying harder.
Why becoming matters more than doing
The difference between striving and abiding
How worry reveals what we're trusting
Spiritual disciplines that actually strengthen your faith
What it means to walk by the Spirit daily
Why God often shapes our character before our calling
Practical ways to surrender control in seasons of waiting
How to recognize when you've slipped into self-reliance
Finding peace in the middle of uncertainty
One of my favorite moments from this conversation was Kathleen's reminder that worry is simply meditation on the wrong thing. Instead of rehearsing our fears, we're invited to think on God's truth, see ourselves the way He sees us, and speak His promises over our lives.
Whether you're waiting for clarity, healing, a new opportunity, or simply trying to trust God with what's next, I pray this conversation encourages you to stay connected to Jesus and remember—you are not just waiting.
Connect with Kathleen:• KathleenJohnsonMinistries.com• Healed to Heal Podcast
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