Michael Mescher, Founder and CIO of Gammon Capital, joins the show to discuss the looming $10 billion 2027 "Put Wall" in corporate debt, building a playbook for sideways and down markets, and how Bitcoin treasuries can attract institutional capital.


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0:00 - Intro 

0:40 – Michael’s background in volatility trading and derivatives

3:18 – What a 50% collateral haircut actually means for a corporate balance sheet

11:15 – The looming $10 billion 2027 "Put Wall" in corporate debt

13:21 – Why Bitcoin treasuries are grossly overpaying for loans

15:02 – Derivatives as "balance sheet armor" vs. yield-generation tools

16:55 – Building a playbook for sideways and down markets

19:05 – Financial engineering: What Michael Saylor gets right

22:15 – What separates mid-tier Bitcoin treasury companies from one another

24:42 – Why hasn't a free market solution built a better credit facility?

26:54 – How Bitcoin treasuries can attract institutional capital

29:04 – Managing asset-liability mismatches in corporate reserves

32:38 – Capital-efficient strategies to manage downside volatility

34:46 – How to pitch a hedging strategy to a "long-only" Bitcoin executive

37:17 – What a 90-day engagement with Gammon Capital looks like

38:18 - Where to connect with Michael online



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