Hilary Whitehall, wife of Michael and mother to Jack, joins Jenni on this episode of Routes from LNER to talk travel, tours and the family holidays that never quite go to plan.
Hilary looks back on decades of family trips, from camping holidays in Devon and the New Forest to touring spa towns and theatres up and down the country with her podcast. She shares the story of flying out to keep Jack company while he was filming abroad, including one especially hot hike to the Hollywood sign and an unplanned trip to a sweat lodge that proved more intense than expected.
There's also a longstanding camper van ambition Michael refuses to indulge, some strong opinions on train bacon baps, and a warm reflection on finally getting the whole family under one roof for a holiday after years apart.
It's a funny, affectionate conversation about the chaos, characters and closeness that come with travelling as a family.
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