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How Hightouch Builds RL Agents For Marketing Teams, with Kashish Gupta, Co-CEO At Hightouch

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AI is changing the game for marketing, but how do businesses truly integrate AI into their workflows?


In this episode, Kashish Gupta, Co-founder & Co-CEO of High Touch, joins Barr Yaron to break down the rise of Composable CDPs, the role of AI decisioning, and the future of automated marketing.


They explore:


- How High Touch pivoted into the Composable CDP space


- Why marketers struggle with data democratization and AI adoption


- How reinforcement learning (RL) agents are optimizing marketing campaigns


- What AI can (and can’t) replace in modern marketing teams


- The biggest technical challenges in building AI decisioning systemsIf you’re a marketer, data leader, or AI enthusiast, this episode is packed with insights into the future of AI-powered marketing.


This episode is broken down into the following chapters:


00:00 – Welcome & Introduction


01:09 – The High Touch founding story & early pivots


02:28 – Why Composable CDPs are the future of data-driven marketing


03:42 – Overcoming market education challenges


05:08 – The manual way of marketing vs. AI-powered decisioning


09:21 – How AI decisioning works inside High Touch


12:24 – Why reinforcement learning (RL) is the right AI model for marketing


13:45 – How High Touch sets up reward functions for AI agents


16:04 – How much data do you actually need for AI-driven marketing?


17:27 – The biggest misconceptions about AI and marketing


21:00 – Building an AI team at High Touch & hiring strategy


24:27 – The biggest technical challenges of AI decisioning


27:10 – How customers interact with AI-driven marketing models


29:40 – What’s next for AI decisioning & autonomous marketing agents?


34:26 – The future of AI & CDPs – where is the industry headed?


37:42 – What remains uniquely human in marketing?


41:23 – Advice for marketers considering AI adoption


44:16 – The future of AI agents working together


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